If You Want a Rich Man (Deedle Deedle Deedle...)
Let me just preface this entry by saying I do not believe this is real. It reminds me of that over-the-top crazy bride YouTube clip that sparked "bridezilla" segments on media outlets nationwide... until the actresses involved came out and said, "Just kidding! It was fake! We really just want to be famous!"
My coworkers, however, disagree with me. So you be the judge.
These are actual posts from the personals area on Craigslist. Let's pretend that it isn't fictional, just for fun. What do you think? Is she right for knowing exactly what she wants -- and being completely frank about it? What about his theory? Is it on-target? Or just plain offensive? Take a look:
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What am I doing wrong?
Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy. I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think I'm overreaching at all.
Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 - 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?
Here are my questions specifically:
* Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms
* What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt my feelings
* Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)?
* Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's the story there?
* Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?
* How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY
Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.
It's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
THE ANSWER
Dear Pers-431649184:
I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament. Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I see it.
Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a cr@ppy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful!
So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!
So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business sense to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It's as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.
Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful" as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.
By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.
With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way. Classic "pump and dump." I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.
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UPDATE: She responded to him!
A doozy, isn't it? Okay, vent away!
I got this as an email forward last week - I love the guy's response. I gues you really can find everything you need on Craigslist!
I love that she calls herself "classy"--have you ever met someone classy who called themselves classy? Or, for that matter, ever met anyone "classy" who would post something like this or even have this thought? No, me either. :)
Well, it's not too hard to think that it might just be true. I mean, there is a dating website set up specifically for women to hook up with rich men, lol. But if it were true, I'd feel very sorry for the girl who got such a response, even if the guy is, pardon the pun, right on the money. ;)
Since love is not an issue here I suggest that you meet and marry a very nerdy looking podiatrist. Someone who has never seen a woman except when he's been on his knees looking up at an 80 year old's feet. Wow him off his feet with your feminine charms. Have some children that may turn out to be beautiful or may look nerdy. Keep your weight down and go to the gym two or three times a week. Treat your husband well and don't spend all your time shopping or he may catch on to his real value to you.
Firstly, I loved reading her posting and even more so, his response. Secondly, I'm a little insulted (not sure if I should be.) She called herself "articulate and classy" followed by "I'm not from New York." Did she mean there are no articulate and classy women from New York? I have to laugh at this.
I personally think she should try getting a job. If she's smart enough to make the equivalent of what any of the men she claims to date are making (be it 250k or 500k) then she'll have more to bargain with. After all, as the man said, "looks will fade", so she'll need to put more on the table.
I believe that most intelligent, hard working men will want to marry women who are respectful and dignified, not simply beautiful. If she had any class at all she would re-consider, "whoring" herself around like that!
Maybe she'll wisen up when she gets a little older.
The guy's comment gave me hope that there are intelligent guys out there who are looking for more than looks in a woman. Thank you, whoever you are, for brightening my day!
If she is really like what she mentioned, beautiful,articulate and classy. Richromances.com would be the right place for her. Many wealthy guys are out there.
firstly,i really felt insulted by the way she puts out herself and with that she calls herself classy,real classy girls would never think of that,rather the hate the way it sounds to be so cheap.i love the response she got from the guy,it shows that some guys know what marriage is all about and not just the beauty and shopping aspect of it. if she wants money then my honest advice ids that she look for a job to do.
never have i been so amused! as a 26 year old woman who has put herself through college, established herself in a male dominated industry, and prides herself on working hard for what she wants both professionally and personally, i have very little respect for someone so shallow, disillusioned, and seemingly unmotivated. sweetie, if you want a comfortable lifestyle, fine things, and fancy parties, here's a novel idea: Go out and earn them yourself.
Wow, she is one shallow woman! She may get rich, she won't be beautiful all her life, and she sure won't find happiness.
Those 'plain jane' girls are married to successful men because they are nothing like you honey. You're clearly the one wtih nothing to offer.
As said before, cheers for brightening my day! I've never thought about it before, but I am indeed an appreciating asset. I'm pretty but not gorgeous, but I am intelligent and a pioneer in my field of work, and will undoubtedly be quite successful in life. I recently had a battle with a friend over whether rich men prefer skinny women. I think I may have found a new retort: rich men prefer worthwhile investments!
Loves it! I've got to start reading Craigslist ads when I'm bored.
I don't know why she got all huffy and puffy--the man was being real with her. And he made very excellent points.
I want to meeet the man, not her. I would be willing to bet that he is very interesting and fun. Let me know if it is possible. I do not need a sugar daddy, I am just interested.
That was a bit amusing! I've never been very up for the idea of people looking for dates by the size of their wallet, not a real relationship in it at all, now is there? That guy seems intresting to give a her a nice kick like that! :)
There is much offered by this young woman. To adequately be the consort of a wealthy man is a skilled technical art. Her youth is indeed a rare flower that fades and deserves a king's ransom to witness its passing. Then should love root in this match all of creation will smile.
There is much offered by this young woman. To adequately be the consort of a wealthy man is a skilled technical art. Her youth is indeed a rare flower that fades and deserves a king's ransom to witness its passing. Then should love root in this match all of creation will smile.
t is refreshing to know what you want. But has this little woman done any research. If you wan to catch a certain fish you go to the right pond. More importantly you groom yourself for it and it comes to you. If she posted this on craigslist asking these questions she is not groomed
as a 20 year old it's disgraceful to see a 25yr old writting something like that. It is downright pathetic...
With stuff like dat, she could well be advertising a bag she wants to sell...
Judgements, judgements... Readers, first of all, a woman chooses a partner according to certain criteria, and so do men. She wants to be with an accomplished man, not only for money and what money can buy, but for a man who possesses certain qualities which made him successful in life. What's so criminal about it? Who wants to be with a man who's a coach potato and has no financial plan? He'd have youth, looks, body, you name it, it's fun to be with him for 30 minutes (you know what I mean) ... what do you with do with him next? She's honest and upfront, not every woman will be this way: most will mask their true intentions. With this one, it's absolutely safe and fair: this is what you get,and this is what's expected of you.
To a male respondent: You say "lease"? How long did your own marriage last? If less than "till death do us apart", what does it really matter how you call it? There are more than enough examples when happy marriages went sour (and how great and romantically they started!!!). It's OK for everyone to choose the course of their own, there should be no judgement at all. You don't like a "commodity" - pass on it(not you specifically, anyone seeking a partner). She asked for an advise how to land a guy she wants, she asked specific questions, and those were not answered, by the way. Someone tell the girl where to look, for "chrissake" (lol). The curve of demand and supply will meet somehow, somewhere. Good luck to all, be happy!
without love, I would agree with him. But if they loved each other, both would be appreciating assets because love grows stronger so he would find her more beautiful with each passing year and if she loved him she would not leave him if he ran out of money.
she does sound shallow though. How does she know that the husbands of those "plain janes" don't consider their wives to be the most beautiful woman they've ever met? (on the flip side - lots of people will only marry within their own social class and - and yes, I'm kinda shallow too for this comment - there are an awful lot of ugly wealthy people - and since they keep marrying within this wealthy/ugly circle...)
I totally agree with the guy. Why should he "buy" her? What a superficial biatch. Why can't she make her own money? It's girls like this that give girls a bad name in the first place. This girl is an idiot.